Brad and Dan explore how retribution politics, culture war theater, and the weaponization of "fraud" narratives are shaping the administration's strategy—often at the expense of basic governance and public trust.
With ICE planning a $38 billion expansion of detention infrastructure, Brad and Dan confront what they argue is the normalization of a nationwide network of camps—and the Christian leaders defending it. Analyzing figures like William Wolfe and Kevin Roberts, they expose the theological sleight of hand at work: "order" elevated above human dignity, "our people" defined in narrowing ethnic and national terms, and violence reframed as righteousness.
This isn't abstract theology—it's a moral justification for mass detention and exclusion. The episode names it plainly and challenges listeners to reckon with what kind of Christianity, and what kind of country, is being built in its name.
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