LIVE DEBATE [Your God is Fiction] 5-11-2026 (Justin at DZ Debates on YouTube)

TIMESTAMPS

9:53 Isaiah Thomas - Marci joins; Caller believes in God because the world seems fine-tuned; Caller leaves abruptly

26:39 Vintage [Deconstructing] - What parts of the Bible could people use to back up the idea that Jesus is Satan?

51:05 Brian [Friendly] - How can caller debate against the anti-blood transfusion belief of Jehovah’s Witnesses?

1:02:25 Islamically Correct - Quantanaut joins; Caller wants to run the argument from contingency; Does the universe have a beginning?

1:37:05 (Islamically Correct) - M’s joins; Where does a man’s special fluid come from? What is wrong with Aisha being married as a child?

2:03:08 Leaf - Caller is a member of the Druze; Call doesn’t really go anywhere so gets dropped

2:09:08 Ben Randall - Will the new Jerusalem be a physical place (Ezekiel); Will we have to follow the Mosaic Law forever? Was Jesus a false prophet?

2:40:58 Chief - Lucy the hominid is fake; Where did life come from?

2:55:25 Davidestrada8634 - Can you believe scientific studies if you yourself weren’t there? Was Jesus from the physical seed of David? Has anyone seen God? Should males get the tip snipped?

3:42:55 Freegame - This call turns into Justin vs ChatGPT because caller doesn’t bring any of their own defenses to the call and can’t cite sources with specificity; If a religion says something false about history, does that make the religion itself false? Does Exodus 9:6 contain a contradiction (the ten plagues)? Caller doesn’t speak Hebrew but gets into a Biblical Hebrew grammar fight and misquotes the BDB

4:23:50 (Freegame) - Can we trust Biblical scholars? Does Matthew 1:11 have a contradiction (Josiah vs Jeconiah)? Is Michael Coogan, editor of The New Oxford Annotated Bible, a Christian?

4:49:20 (Freegame) - What does the Catholic Church say about Biblical contradictions? When was Jesus born (reign of Herod vs census ordered by Quirinius)?

5:28:17 (Freegame) - Catholic Church and contradictions continued; Caller wants to physically fight Justin and call turns to meta

5:47:10 (Freegame) - What evil stuff has the Catholic Church done or endorsed? Circling back to Quirinius

6:25:08 Make the case AKA SaucyNugs - Philodragon and Cyber join; Does the universe exist? Could Justin ever not exist? What necessarily exists? Caller keeps trying to twist words throughout the call

7:24:10 Bob [Agnostic] - A discussion of agnosticism and beliefs

7:43:28 Superchats and wrap up

Interview: 

https://www.youtube.com/live/cor504yN8is?si=mq7NokaSW-3N75D3

Free Betty (Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor, Freethought Radio podcast)

After announcing the “Secularist of the Week” and the “Theocrat of the Week,” we speak with Maryam Namazie, president of the Council of Ex-Muslims of Great Britain, about the campaign to release Ibtissame Betty Lachgar from a Moroccan prison for the “crime” of wearing a T-shirt that insults Islam.

Interview: 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/free-betty/id152788201?i=1000792626840

Let’s Be Honest about Why You Are a Christian or a Muslim: Your Forebears Murdered Their Way into Your Mind (Richard Carrier blog)

Christianity, as with all religions, started in one tiny place, when the rest of the Earth was populated by a wildly marvelous diversity of religious beliefs—and yet, curiously enough, the concept of warfare over religious differences was virtually nonexistent. Most people in ancient times believed it was proper to respect the gods of other peoples. This changed on a global scale when Christianity was spread, quite literally, by the sword. Those who attempted to assert their religious differences were harassed, tortured, robbed of their land and belongings, even killed. Before it achieved political power, Christianity was a small sect, a heresy against the Jewish faith, that had to accept equality among all the other religions of the Roman Empire. Yet it was the first religion to openly attack the religions of other people as false (the Jews, at least, were a little more tactful). Needless to say, Christianity only truly flourished when it had the ability to eliminate the competition—when it had the full support of Rome’s Emperors after 313 A.D., and when, in 395 A.D., every religion other than Christianity was actually outlawed...

It is not a coincidence that the two most widespread religions in the world today are the most warlike and intolerant religions in history...

So why are convictions still so strong when it comes to the certainty of such amazing claims as God and heaven or the miracles of Jesus? Though theologians still answer this question with the claim that it is evidence of their truth and God’s grace in the world, the real answer is that many are essentially afraid not to believe, a fear whose encouragement is built into each religion itself—as we saw, for example, in the quotations from scripture above. Besides threats of hell, we face an almost insurmountable degree of peer pressure when it comes to our religious convictions. Some still say to themselves that if everyone else believes it, it must be true. After all, how could so many people be that crazy or misguided? Some might jokingly call this the “lemming” effect, but it is no small force in society. Ask yourself how often you have held a serious critical discussion about the reasons and evidence supporting your beliefs. If you think about it carefully you might realize that the support for some of your beliefs is so vague or weak that the same reasons and experiences could just as easily support any religion on earth, including voodoo and alien mind control...

In the final analysis, the only reason you or anyone today is a Christian or a Muslim is because your forebears murdered their way into your mind. Had Christianity and Islam behaved peacefully and with tolerance and acceptance, and taught rather than threatened, abused, and poisoned to crush and displace its competitors and dominate society like an abusive tyrant, no empire would ever have been Christian or Islamic. The religions you would find familiar and socially accepted and providing of all the things you want, from answers to community, kindness and honesty, would be tolerant heathen pantheons. There might still have been corruption and villainy, but it wouldn’t have been the norm, and it would more freely and easily have been called out and diminished...

Christianity and Islam cannot survive true religious freedom because they only exist today because of their core DNA of religious oppression. By violently colonizing the globe, Christianity colonized your mind. You are only a Christian or a Muslim because of mass global murder. Not because of evidence, utility, or wisdom... 

https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/43391

Southeast Asian Freethinkers (Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor, Freethought Radio podcast)

We salute feminist freethinker Robin Morgan, and castigate Christian nationalist actions by various Cabinet members. Then, A.J. Surin, founder and president of Humanists Malaysia, tells us about the few brave freethinkers advocating for reason and tolerance of diversity in his ultrareligious mostly Islamist nation.

Interview: 

https://ffrf.org/news/freethought-radio/freethought-today-september-10-2026/

Weekly Roundup: Talarico is "Al-Qaeda" + Enes Kanter's WNBA Stunt (Bradley Onishi and Daniel Miller; Straight White American Jesus podcast)

This week on the SWAJ Weekly Roundup, Brad and Dan dig into Lance Wallnau’s baseless claim that Texas gubernatorial candidate James Talarico is secretly linked to Al-Qaeda, unpacking how this fits a broader Christian nationalist strategy of tying Democrats to Islamist and Marxist “infiltrators” — even as polling shows Talarico outperforming Trump’s 2024 numbers in his district. 

They also break down Enes Kanter Freedom’s confrontational stunt at a WNBA game, arguing that anti-trans activism functions as a form of misogyny aimed at enforcing patriarchal norms on women’s spaces. 

The episode closes with a look at a Florida grand jury finding that the DeSantis administration misappropriated $10 million meant for children’s Medicaid to fight a marijuana legalization ballot measure — a story Brad and Dan frame as part of a broader erosion of political accountability.

Interview: 

https://axismundinetwork.substack.com/p/weekly-roundup-talarico-is-al-qaeda

Texas Republicans are harassing peaceful Muslims!

 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gU2fnckTBgk

 

The rank stupidity of Christian nationalism #maklelan3399

 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A53Sr8zVFk0

 

LIVE DEBATE [Your God is Fiction] 4-8-2026 (Justin at DZ Debates on YouTube)

TIMESTAMPS

• 12:23 Servant of Yeshua [Philbro] - Marci joins; Does truth exist? Caller runs the Transcendental Argument for God; Caller runs 
• Skipped some non-calls and a troll 
• 46:35 jakobii_drumming - How does the Holy Trinity make sense? If Jesus is God, does that mean that people have seen God (John 1:18)? Is Jesus 100% God?
• 1:07:35 (jakobii_drumming) - When Jesus died, did that mean that God lost part of himself? 
• 1:38:35 (jakobii_drumming) -Would we expect natural disasters to exist if God is all good? Caller can't restate Justin and Marci's position and we get stuck in a loop 
• 2:21:45 Leo Blanton - What happened prior to and directly after the Big Bang? Caller gets kicked because they are driving
• 2:43:15 Minty Bum Bum - How should caller handle same-sex attraction as a deconstructing Muslim? 
• 3:09:00 mikha'il [Muslim] - M's joins; The Quran is divine revelation from Allah; "Whatever doesn't make sense, you claim is metaphorical"; Caller doesn't really argue back
• 3:45:01 Sam - Quantanaut joins; Does the universe have a beginning? How does the law of the thermodynamics play out on the scale of the universe?
• 4:13:00 (Sam) - If we say something created the universe, why would it be a God? Does God give everyone a purpose?
• 4:30:00 (Sam) - Does Isaiah 53 show that Jesus is the messiah? Full breakdown of Isaiah 53 
• 5:07:20 (Sam) - What made Christianity popular?
• 5:46:40 Darius - Divine Command Theory; If Zeus was God, does it make it wrong for him to grape women?
• 5:58:30 (Darius) - Does God ordain grape? Caller can't defend it but points to the natural law; Could we know if God was evil? Caller: taking war brides is evil but we have to trust God 6:27:08 (Darius) - If Christianity isn't true, why do we have so many old laws based off Christian laws (e.g. Magna Carta)? Even if God is illogical, why shouldn't we just trust in God? What if we ignore what Paul said and just follow Jesus?
• 6:51:55 (Darius) - Does religion offer societal benefits? Is there a way to cut out the pro-slavery arguments but keep the Bible? What does the Bible say about slavery?
• 7:40:05 Superchats and wrap up

Interview: 

https://www.youtube.com/live/flF7VufXm9Y?si=kzzlrGivPYHiXPLW

LIVE DEBATE [Your God is Fiction] 3-26-2026

TIMESTAMPS

• 13:45 joseale - Does math and truth exist?
• 28:09 Reggie - Troll
• 31:33 Steph [Atheist] - Question about homosexuality references in the Bible
• 36:40 Nameless Guitar (aka Matthew) - Caller is as bad faith as last time; Picking up the argument about the Septuagint vs the Dead Sea Scrolls from his last call; What is the current consensus on the Big Bang? Eternal vs infinite
• 1:31:45 notj186 - The Masoretic Text, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the Septuagint; What was before the Big Bang? Caller is not here to debate
• 2:17:33 Easy - Possibly a troll because caller claimed to be Muslim here but told Ian he was Catholic; Tries to Philbro and gets kicked
• 2:39:40 velrayo [Non-believer] - Why did the Church Fathers keep Judges 19 in the scriptures?
• 2:42:33 Dominique [Friendly] - Cheat sheet request for Matthew 7:21
• 2:54:40 Kevin - God is real because Justin is morally depraved; Is it good to stone women who aren’t virgins? Pro-baby paste
• 3:41:30 Dale - Troll
• 3:49:12 L (aka Iliana) - Adam & Eve were real and the flood happened; When did the Exodus happen?4:14:23 (L) - Is evolution real? Justin goes into endogenous retroviruses; Dr. Digg joins
• 5:07:00 (L) - How long is a day to God? Is the Earth flat according to the Bible? Is Psalm 41 a prophecy?
• 5:34:05 (L) - Should we honor the Sabbath? Is slavery cool? Caller pretzels super hard and retreats into, “ I don’t know”
• 6:17:10 (L) - How does caller feel about war brides (Numbers 31)? Answer: This isn’t God endorsing it, but instead pointing out how evil it is; At the end, caller admits she is cool with war brides
• 6:48:38 Superchats and wrap up

Interview: 

https://www.youtube.com/live/bTNfGrrwTX8?si=kCevzKp-XEIjPh-w

LIVE DEBATE [God is Fiction] 2-13-2026 (Justin at DZ Debates on YouTube)

There is no magic man in the sky.


TIMESTAMPS

8:40 Tired - Modern day prophecies are coming true like kids are more disobedient now; Is there a timeline in the second coming (Matthew 22)? Jeremiah 31

41:29 Angels of Light - Flerf; Dr Blitz and M’s joins; Is the ether real? Gas pressure and atmospheric pressure

1:05:50 (Angels of Light) - How do GPS satellites work?

1:17:10 LukeSky [Friendly] - Question on the Trinity and Jesus not knowing the hour of his return

1:28:35 Musll [Muslim] - Astronomy vs the Quran; Did Allah send down iron from space? Debate on the phrase “sent down”

1:59:50 (Musll) - What is the lowest heaven?

2:15:00 (Musll) - Quran and bad anatomy; Does the Quran say that the universe is expanding? We chill with young brides? Caller dodges and whataboutisms hard

2:59:00 dejah - Caller is a yapper; What makes eternal punishment fair? Caller can’t really answer

3:26:30 (dejah) - Textual variants vs the inspiration of scripture; What should be read plainly and what should be read with a spiritual meaning?

4:24:30 Isaac [Atheist] - Who is the service in Isaiah 53? Is Matthew 16 about the Transfiguration?

4:29:35 Kermit - Friendly troll

4:32:03 Samantha - Is the Trinity logically coherent? Mini crash out

4:37:23 Bear - Does Matthew 24 set a timeline for the return of Jesus? Caller doesn’t really answer

4:48:28 maven - Caller is a theist but believes all gods are imaginary; Discussion on how religions are made up

4:55:40 Marlin - Quick drop

4:58:10 Jesusisking777 - Did Jesus lie in John 7? Response: there is a timeframe issue; Is Jesus the only one who has ascended into Heaven?

5:22:00 (Jesusisking777) - Are war brides cool? Response: At the time…

5:49:20 Superchats and wrap-up

Interview: 

https://www.youtube.com/live/8caxZKGGTa0?si=HkAGEtOCBsqkkP00

LIVE DEBATE [God is Fiction] 2-11-2026 (Justin at DZ Debates on YouTube)

There is no magic man in the sky.

TIMESTAMPS

10:45 Bobby Time Traveler [Muslim] - Wants to convince Justin to convert to Islam

17:15 Aldo[Muslim Philbro] - Tries to speedrun his argument and gets dropped

26:53 Thunder [Muslim] - Starts the age of consent discussion but ends up getting dropped

35:15 Toxic Misogynist- Believes he has heard God’s voice and has seen miracles

55:35 Aslan - What would Justin consider evidence for God? Is evolution compatible with the Biblical story of creation? A little on fine tuning 1:11:45 (Aslan) - Why did God make natural disasters?

1:29:35 MackLuster [Friendly] - Looking at the grossness of 1 Cor 7:36

1:33:10 RealPresence - Christian God is the only one that can explain life as it is now; Entropy, energy, and the universe; Crash out at the end

2:15:10 UzumakuNaruto [Deconstructing] - Can you choose what you believe?

2:52:30 LtGabby - The morals of the Bible are good and worth following; It was good to execute rebellious children at the time is was given; If evil exists, there must be an opposite; Pro-baby paste

3:34:00 Jean D - What is the reason for our existence and how did we come about? Is God just (David and Bathsheba)?

4:09:00 (Jean D) - Can you choose what you believe? Is eternal punishment fair?

4:53:30 Trey - Flerf?; If God is imaginary, so are we; Whatever the Bible says is true; Jeremiah 31

5:24:18 Superchats and wrap-up

Interview: 

https://www.youtube.com/live/9y_MVcXPeTM?si=0NJ0czmWSLNYYC8l

LIVE DEBATE [God is in the Epstein Files] 2-20-2026 (Justin at DZ Debates on YouTube)

The abrahamic god is a monster.

TIMESTAMPS

12:47 Balint [Deconstructing] - How to handle addiction recovery programs without religion

22:40 Perfect Masculinity - Bad faith caller and gets dropped

25:43 Los - Not opposition so gets a quick lesson and leaves

42:30 Supernatural Faith - What all does the Old Testament say about slaves? Call turns into a Q&A about Justin and what other religions believe 1:06:35 (Supernatural Faith) - Are exorcisms proof of God?

1:17:30 A traveller [Muslim] - M’s joins; Bad audio; How does Islam feel about child brides?

1:34:10 Conductor - Did God cause SA in 2 Samuel 11 (David’s concubines)? Caller didn’t want to discuss the Bible so gets dropped

1:38:30 Blackwell - Dalton joins; Caller argues about God’s name; 2 Samuel 11; Caller is as disingenuous as last time

2:14:08 (Blackwell) How does the caller feel about the test of the bloody sheet? Caller runs immediately

2:24:08 Leoliguar - Bong rip theology; Light has consciousness and can choose how fast they move

2:35:55 Kreganregan [Friendly] - Christianity and the history of abolition

2:46:40 Superchats and wrap-up
Interview: 

https://www.youtube.com/live/bXNMiK98Izs?si=KocS1Voxri-232we

LIVE DEBATE [God is Fiction] 3-4-2026 (Justin at DZ Debates on YouTube)

TIMESTAMPS

14:13 Matt [Panentheist] - Philbro; Caller keeps talking over Venus; Makes an argument akin to the contingency argument; The eternal universe and consciousness

1:05:10 Zack [Atheist] - Caller wants help talking to his sister about her fear of Hell

1:21:25 Toadboi - Starting to deconstruct; Justin covers some contradictions in the Bible and the question of genealogy of Jesus

1:50:50 YouTuber Ultimated Biblic Judeo-Christian - Presupp; Fights over the definitions of knowledge vs belief

2:10:35 Truth Ninja - Asks one question and suddenly leaves

2:19:08 David - The reason for life; Kind of wanders around and then leaves

2:32:18 vesius - Extremely rude to Venus; Atheists don’t understand the idea of divine permission vs. permissive will; Is 1 Samuel 15:3 a command (wiping out the Amalekites)? Caller: no, it isn’t a command

3:02:40 Arif [Muslim] - Is the universe eternal? Caller gets offended and leaves

3:18:40 dxrosjos [Atheist] - Does Justin get upset when people argue for slavery?

3:20:48 Seth [Jewish] - The Oral Torah allows is to better understand the written Torah and helps solve some mysteries/problems; Is the Torah reliable?

3:59:15 bos - Prophecy in Revelation in regards to the Middle East; Prophecy of a ruler from the line of David (Micah 5:2); The loon Ron Wyatt and archeology

4:44:40 Philly Sports Live - Cyber and Jmike join; God is real because of the Dead Sea Scrolls and look at the trees

4:55:20 Superchats and wrap-up
Interview: 

https://www.youtube.com/live/lQCxDoXJiPs?si=stGocxOD8kmD6NQQ

LIVE DEBATE [God is Imaginary] 1-23-2026 (Justin at DZ Debates on YouTube)

TIMESTAMPS

• 6:00 Ratonymous - Friendly greeting
• 7:53 Servant of yeshua - Presupp crash out
• 19:30 sammyvada [Hindu] - The bridge between sensory experience and our subjectiveness is the Hindu God; Consciousness and complexity 
• 39:19 dumb christian - Did Jesus lie in John 7? Caller: there is no major theological contradictions; Justin goes to the Mosaic Law 
• 1:08:30 (dumb christian) - Should we follow the Law forever? How about the test of the bloody sheet? Caller: it is a good law and is okay to unalive innocent women. Pro-baby paste
• 1:47:43 killzwithdignity - Energy is God; A lot of bad physics
• 2:08:57 foobarbazbat - What does it mean to fulfill in regards to the verse about abolish vs fulfill?
• 2:18:10 deathbymod - The logic of the Trinity; Did Jesus return in 70 CE? Caller dropped as a troll
• 2:41:00 YapHous - God is everything
• 2:47:10 Carlos - Stopping by to say hi
• 2:48:20 Manar Reports [Muslim] - Gross call; M’s joins; Caller is okay with child brides; When are abortions okay? Are morals objective? Then swinging back to asking when is it okay to marry a girl
• 3:43:13 Rock - Caller has a book recommendation for M’s
• 3:45:20 Matt [Deconstructed] - What is some good advice for going public as an atheist?
• 3:48:30 Marky - What proof do we have for the resurrection? Should we still follow the Mosaic Law?
• 4:19:25 (Marky) - What prophecies did Jesus fulfill? (Jeremiah 31)? Did Jesus sit on the throne?
• 4:47:20 (Marky) - What is your life’s purpose as an atheist?
• 5:13:15 Superchats and wrap-up

Interview: 

https://www.youtube.com/live/Rg4Xkz6k2hQ?si=l5wFLMch2XrJlgQa

LIVE DEBATE [God is Not Good] 1-19-2026 (Justin and team, DZ Debates on YouTube)

Caller questions are answered by a team of experts in biology and evolution, as well as Islam and the Bible.

TIMESTAMPS 

29:30 Devin [Atheist] - Handling grief
39:15 Sacred Scars [Friendly] - Who is the Son of Man?
50:55 Alex - If God does it, it is good
1:37:30 Pete - Lost a daughter
2:17:25 Dreamy - pro-Divine Command
2:47:05 Rodrigo [Muslim] - Predestination
4:04:29 Eatenplace [Friendly] - Kurzgesagt
4:10:35 Muslim - God is always correct
4:54:00 Veritas

 

Interview: 

https://www.youtube.com/live/KY9wM4Wh6KQ?si=mfI-qtMDPPUwwgZq

A Classic Quranic Cooking With John Ban (DZ Debates on YouTube)

A woman calls in to persuade atheist Justin to become a Muslim, because, she says, its teachings are miraculously perfect and true. Unfortunately for her, "M's" is on the line as a support co-host, and he is a physician and former Muslim, far more educated in the religion and what its scriptures really say.

Interview: 

https://youtu.be/5CyxJhWdb6I?si=c3WtIS5MWm7JOSPC

Republicans go all-in on 'Sharia law' attacks ahead of Texas primary - POLITICO

From the state's white-hot GOP Senate primary down to local races, Republican candidates are pledging to fight the hardest against a proposed residential development of 1,000 homes centered around a Mosque north of Dallas, while issuing dire warnings about the supposed threat of Islam and questioning their opponents' commitment to the cause...

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/26/republicans-go-all-in-on-sharia-law-attacks-ahead-of-texas-primary-00745647 

 

Is Religion A Harmless Fiction? | Sam Harris [Deleted Scene] (YouTube)

Interview: 

https://youtu.be/2PrDU02mkjs?si=oCYBmKa_v31LY2zQ

TRANSCRIPT (auto-generated by YouTube)

Imagine your neighbor tells you that he believes that he has a diamond buried in his backyard the size of a refrigerator, right. This is this is the biggest diamond anyone's ever heard of. And every Sunday he digs for it with his family. And you ask him why he believes these things. And he starts saying that it's been prophesied that someone would have a diamond this size in his backyard and he might as well be him, right. Or he, he draws a tremendous amount of meaning from this. Don't you understand how offensive your your doubts and criticism are? In the face of how meaningful this experience is for him and his family every Sunday to dig. They spent long hours digging in the hot sun for this diamond. And shed tears of of solidarity over the project. They've been doing this for years. Don't you understand that the sunk costs they have there? And how offensive it is for you to doubt the wisdom of this behavior.

Or what if he said to you. I wouldn't want to live in a universe where there wasn't a diamond in my backyard that's the size of a refrigerator. These would be the statements of a madman, right. This is a person whose mind you can't trust. Really on any topic at this point. And yet this is precisely what religious people say even moderate religious people, even liberals, even people who who criticize fundamentalism as something that's dangerous and divisive and retrograde. This is the sort of things this sort of thing you hear from religious people rather reliably and yet it's obviously dysfunctional. it's obviously not the way you would think and talk and reason if you wanted your beliefs about the world to reliably map onto the world.

Many people wonder why there's anything wrong with believing consoling fictions or just ceasing to care whether your beliefs map onto reality at all, right. There is nothing wrong with believing whatever you want to believe and all we should be concerned about is human behavior. You know the kinds of things people do in the world the kinds of laws they want to push through. The problem however is that belief is almost never merely private, right. Now if it were if it is truly private, if it doesn't show up in any way, in a person's dealings with other human beings well then then there's there's nothing to worry about really apart from that person maybe not actualizing himself or herself as as much as they might in this life. So whatever price is to be paid for an erroneous belief by that person, if it's truly private is is paid just by the person himself. But far more often, beliefs become engines of behavior and engines of of emotion and they are the basis for a person's reaction to events in the world.

The moment you map some extreme religious commitments onto public behavior it becomes clear how dysfunctional all this is. I mean just imagine a an airline pilot who really believed in the efficacy of prayer, right. Not just you know sort of believed that you know just as a consoling proposition sometimes but really thought that you know it's possible to fly a plane, he knows to be damaged purely on the power of prayer. Because you know God wouldn't want to to strike down a believer like him, right. So a person who is willing to take unconscionable risks not only with his own life but the lives of his passengers because he knows that prayer works, right. Who's going to get on that airplane, willingly? No one. Not even a religious person really at the end of the day.

So it's it's a beliefs insofar as they're really believed become active whenever they're they're put in play by by events in the word. What you what you think about what happens after death; or about the moral order of the cosmos; or whether they're are invisible beings who are watching you and and acting like travel agents and traffic cops and helping you get through your day.

All of this potentially shows up in the world to the degree that you believe any of these things. Of course is true, people pay lip service to certain beliefs that they don't hold to the degree that they claim,right. There's a distance between what people say they believe and what they really really believe. But, if events like September 11th have taught us anything, we now know that certain people really do believe in paradise. And they really do believe in martyrdom as a means of getting there. And this is this isn't or shouldn't be open for debate anymore. Some people really do have the courage of their convictions. And now we just have to deal honestly with the consequences of believing those things at this point in history.

Israel, Palestine, Liberty, and the Left (with Jasmin Faulk) (Seth Andrews; The Thinking Atheist podcast)

Jasmin Faulk is an ex-Muslim human rights activist with an insider's perspective on Islam, the war on women, and the often awkward perspectives of the West.

Interview: 

https://www.thethinkingatheist.com/podcast-1/episode/79a117ca/israel-palestine-liberty-and-the-left-with-jasmin-faulk

Rethinking Islam: with Adam Elmasri (The Thinking Atheist podcast)

Egypt-born Adam Elmasri is a human rights activist educating people about the (many) problems with fundamentalist religions...including and especially Islam.

Interview: 

https://youtu.be/fMSVNPBl7Jg?si=QHjKrpmscdlr1j_B