"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or people in the campaign," Giuliani said in a stunning interview. ....
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/rudy-giuliani-bombshell-collusion-trump-campaign
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/rudy-giuliani-bombshell-collusion-trump-campaign
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