Norm Ornstein On The [threatened] Shutdown, the state of conservative politics, corruption on the Supreme Court, and more (Al Franken podcast)

...and what it says about our politics... Republicans: they're all moral cowards or lunatics; there are no more moderates... it is now the party of violence... making violence a core part of the portfolio to influence judges and juries in Trump's cases and dominate politics...

... Absolute corruption of the Roberts Supreme court, including details of deception and conflicts of interest for all of the conservative justices... "caught red-handed"...

... the importance of everyone voting in all elections, including state and local, as well as Presidential...

Interview: 

https://www.alfranken.com/listen/norm-ornstein-on-the-shutdown