The episode also examines the racial and cultural flashpoints shaping the current moment, from Trump's reposting of a racist video depicting Barack and Michelle Obama, to Speaker Mike Johnson's theological defense of ICE and mass deportation. Brad and Dan break down how scripture is distorted to justify ethnonationalism, what they call "ICE-egesis," and how figures like Stephen Wolfe are reshaping Christian nationalism. The episode closes with a look at Super Bowl culture wars, contrasting evangelical counter-programming with Bad Bunny's public resistance, and exploring how Christian parallel culture has shifted from evangelism to exclusion.
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