NSC official's testimony appears to contradict Rick Perry Ukraine claims - POLITICO

Testimony from a senior White House official on Tuesday appeared to contradict Energy Secretary Rick Perry's ardent denials that he ever heard former Vice President Joe Biden or his son Hunter discussed in relation to U.S. requests that Ukraine investigate corruption.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/29/nsc-official-testimony-ukraine-perry-061244