But his patriarchal vision, with its appeals to Rome and medieval Christendom, is not a popular story—it's not a story that most Americans are eager to hear.
So how does Hawley try to make that story more attractive? How does he make it feel more inviting and reasonable?
He does it the same way other storytellers might—he creates antagonists that an audience will hate and fear. Check out this week's episode to hear more.
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