New transcripts shed light on Trump’s interest in Jan. 6 pardons

The then-president may have told the attackers in public, "You will pay," but away from the cameras, his true focus was on possible blanket pardons for his radicalized backers...

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/new-transcripts-shed-light-trumps-interest-jan-6-pardons-rcna63450