The Quiet Demise (Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor, Freethought Radio podcast)

The Catholic Church lobbies for special treatment to gain billions of PPP dollars. FFRF attorney Ryan Jayne tells us about the secret phone calls between the White House and religious groups to funnel money to Trump's preachers. Then law professors Nelson Tebbe and Micah Schwartzman discuss their powerful New York Times article, "The quiet demise of the separation of church and state."
Interview:
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/freethought-radio