In this episode Gretchen talks about:
- How science has changed two years into President Trump's administration
- Ways that science and policy interact Censorship and self censorship of federal scientists
- The scientists who continue to do their jobs despite widespread attacks on science
- Opener (0:00-0:49)
- Intro (0:49-2:29)
- Interview Part 1 (2:29-13:52)
- Break (13:52-14:43)
- Sidelining Science Throw (22:25-22:51)
- Sidelining Science (22:51-26:34)
- Outro (26:34-27:30)
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