“Mr. President, Don’t You Mean The Opposite?” (Pod Save America podcast)

Trump gets rave reviews for not being senile in a meeting, Bannon goes down in flames, and Oprah makes everyone lose their minds. Dr. Catherine Thorlieffson joins Jon, Jon, and Tommy on stage in Oslo, Norway to talk about the rise of right-wing extremism, and Jan Stromnes of Halden Prison discusses criminal justice reform.
Interview:
https://crooked.com/podcast/mr-president-dont-mean-opposite/